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WALZ-ERA FRAUD BOMBSHELL: Klobuchar, Demuth Clash in First Debate as GOP Rival Asks 'Why Didn't You Do More?'

Gary FranchiOctober 19, 2026242 views
Minnesota welfare fraud scandal puts Klobuchar's record under scrutiny.
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Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar and Republican state House Speaker Lisa Demuth met on the debate stage for the first time Monday, and the Walz-era fraud scandal that has consumed Minnesota politics for nearly a year quickly took center stage.

The hourlong debate, hosted by the Minnesota Chamber of Commerce, came as the race to replace embattled Gov. Tim Walz heats up. Walz, a two-term Democrat, abandoned his 2026 re-election bid as the welfare assistance fraud scandal — involving pandemic-era social services programs — siphoned hundreds of millions, and potentially billions, of taxpayer dollars from federal and state coffers.

Demuth, aiming to become the first Republican to win a gubernatorial election in Minnesota in twenty years, repeatedly steered the conversation back to the fraud. "We have allowed a culture of waste and fraud to go on far too long and we can't keep going this way," she said during the first half of the debate, according to Fox News Politics.

The Republican House speaker worked to tie Klobuchar to Walz, who has taken full responsibility for the scandal. "Senator Klobuchar has never once distanced herself from Governor Walz and every single policy he has put in place that have increased the prices and made it harder to do business and to be able to live our lives here in Minnesota," Demuth said, per KFGO.

THE QUESTION KLOBUCHAR COULDN'T SHAKE

Demuth pressed Klobuchar directly: "You could have reached out to the governor and said I think we have a problem in Minnesota... Why didn't you do more."

She also asked why Klobuchar wasn't present at hearings about fraud in her own Senate Judicial Committee when Minnesotans raised concerns about the schemes. It was a pointed challenge for a four-term senator who has built her brand on Minnesota pragmatism.

Klobuchar pushed back, insisting she acted once the fraud became public. "The minute that the fraud went public, I did something that was real….. I called the justice department and asked for more resources," she said, crediting her efforts with more federal prosecutors being assigned to investigate the scandal. "I have been very clear. I would have caught that fraud. I would have done something about it. We have very different backgrounds."

She also drew a contrast on budgeting and crime, saying she "clearly wouldn't have pardoned a sex offender" — a reference to a Walz pardon that has become a flashpoint in the race, according to KFGO.

POLLS AND THE ROAD AHEAD

Polls indicate Klobuchar holds an upper single-digit lead over Demuth, and the Fox News Power Rankings rate the race Likely Democrat. Demuth is fighting an uphill battle in a blue-leaning Midwestern state, but the fraud scandal gives Republicans a tangible record to run against rather than abstract national arguments.

The debate was also covered on social media, where an Instagram reel from the event circulated showing the two candidates on stage. The post's caption simply noted that Klobuchar and Demuth were facing off — a sign of how closely Minnesotans are watching the race.

The two also clashed on the budget, businesses, rising costs and tariffs, with Klobuchar pitching a new era of growth and criticizing what she called chaos from the Trump administration, while Demuth argued Klobuchar's policies have made it harder to do business in the state.

For everyday Minnesotans, the stakes are concrete: the fraud schemes drained programs meant to help the needy, and the next governor will inherit the cleanup — including decisions about prosecutors, oversight and whether the state claws back misspent funds. Voters will get another look at the candidates as the campaign continues toward November.

Our Take

Lisa Demuth asked the question every Minnesota taxpayer deserves answered: if Amy Klobuchar was so alarmed by fraud in her own state, why did it take a public scandal to get her to pick up the phone?

Klobuchar's defense is that she called the Justice Department once the fraud went public. That's not leadership — that's cleanup. The senator sat on the Judiciary Committee. She had a microphone and a platform. And Demuth is right that Klobuchar has never once distanced herself from Tim Walz's policies until it became politically inconvenient.

Democrats will say the fraud is a Walz problem, not a Klobuchar problem. But Klobuchar is asking voters to promote her from the Senate to the governor's mansion on the promise that she would have caught what Walz missed. If the standard is hindsight, everyone passes. The real question is what she did when she had the power to act — and Minnesotans should demand a straight answer before they hand her the keys.

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Gary Franchi
Gary Franchi

Chief White House Correspondent at Next News Network. Executive Producer and Lead Anchor.

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MinneostaMAGAVerifiedjust now
Klobuchar's been coasting on name recognition for years. Time for real questions and real answers. Great debate coverage.
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DuluthDockworkerVerifiedjust now
My cousin applied for one of these programs years ago and got the runaround for months while clearly fraudulent operations were getting approved. Always wondered how that worked. Now I have a better idea.
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StCloudSteelVerifiedjust now
That's the part that gets me - legit applicants got stonewalled while the fraud flowed. Infuriating.
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TCConservativeDadVerifiedjust now
Why didn't you do more? Best line of the night. Simple, direct, and she had no answer.
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RochesterRandyVerifiedjust now
The pause before her response said more than anything she actually said.
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PrairieWind77Verifiedjust now
Does anyone know if there's a full transcript of the debate? I want to see exactly what Klobuchar claimed about when she first learned of the fraud.
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NorthStarPatriotVerifiedjust now
Finally someone on that stage asking the question the rest of the media won't: why didn't Klobuchar do more when the fraud was happening right under her nose?
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MNMama1974Verifiedjust now
And Demuth nailed her on it. You could see Klobuchar scrambling for a talking point.
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LakevilleLarryVerifiedjust now
Exactly. She's been in the Senate long enough to know how to pull a lever or two. The silence was a choice.
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GopherStateGrannyVerifiedjust now
Watched the whole debate last night and Demuth was the only one who seemed genuinely angry about the fraud. That tells me everything.
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SotaSamuraiVerifiedjust now
THIS is the kind of accountability journalism we've been missing. Keep the pressure on.
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IronRangeEngineerVerifiedjust now
I've worked with state grant programs for 20 years and the lack of oversight during that era was an open secret. This isn't hindsight - people were flagging it in real time.